Live on Ekho Moskvy radio station Elena Khanga, Elena Ischeeva, hosts of the Domino Principle program on NTV. The air is hosted by Ksenia Larina and Rinat Valiulin.

K. LARINA: Hello. All our listeners congratulate Lena Hanga on the birth of a child.

E.HANGA: Thank you.

K.LARINA: Lena immediately went to work, just like under Soviet rule. Not a day without vacation.

R. VALIULIN: No, under the Soviet regime they were allowed to walk more.

E.HANGA: Yes, then it was possible. And now it's all.

K. LARINA: Tell us a little about the show, because we haven't seen it personally with Rinat. We work during the day.

R. VALIULIN: I will now reveal all the secrets of the authors of the program. I have a script lost by one of Len that I picked up from the floor. Now I will read. "Studio number one. Good afternoon! Elena Ishcheeva and Elena Hanga are with you, every day from Monday to Thursday .., ”I give.

E. ISHCHEEVA: That is, we carry scripts with us, because on Monday we will work live, now in your studio we discussed the guests, with Lena we came up with something, we decided around the clock about work. And about children sometimes.

R. VALIULIN: I confirm this, because they only talk about this behind the scenes.

K. LARINA: Is this a female program?

E.HANGA: It's at 2.20, and, accordingly, most of the people who can afford to watch this program are housewives who are at home, or women who are giving birth, pregnant women or women who do not want to work, or men who who work at night...

E.ISCHEEVA: ...or just got sick.

E.HANGA: Or they got sick. So our topics are not related to politics, not related to any conflicts, not very social, but very interesting to everyone, very everyday.

K. LARINA: For example?

E.HANGA: Our first broadcast was devoted to how hard it is for people to live in the shadow of the stars, other relatives, acquaintances ... Lolita's housewife told her how to live. But she is doing very well.

K. LARINA: Which erases all the time?

E.HANGA: Quite right. I really liked it, I asked her who her favorite singer was. And she, without blinking her eyes, said Lolita. I say: “And if you worked for Alla Borisovna?” - "Then there would be Alla Borisovna." Another topic we had was “Bachelors”, very successful, in my opinion.

E. ISHCHEEVA: Yes, Lev Shimelov is a very colorful bachelor, he stood his ground to the last and said: I don’t need women, I don’t want to, I never will! This is a bachelor by vocation.

E.HANGA: The next program we had was "Children Prodigies", and there was a sensation, Michael Jackson's dad came.

K. LARINA: It was serious, this is not an artist playing the role of Michael Jackson's dad?

E. ISHCHEEVA: The broadcast began, and the editor said to me: "Lena, announce urgently that Michael Jackson's dad is coming to visit us." I understand that no one will believe.

E. HANGA: “But he is still in the car, so announce carefully, we don’t know if he will or will not reach us.”

E. ISHCHEEVA: I have square eyes, I even suffocated, because I think either I will fail. That is, my husband was looking at work, he says, I realized that you just went crazy. Everyone in the room stopped working, they say - what is it with your wife? She gone crazy? Which Jackson? She what? I understand that if this person does not reach, there will be a terrible scandal ...

E.HANGA: No, he drove very funny, he told.

K. LARINA: And what is he doing here?

E.HANGA: He has his own projects here, he brought some young girl of Asian origin, interesting future star, her mother came, he apparently has some financial interests in Russia.

R. VALIULIN: By the way, yes. The father, after all, has the most direct relation to show business. Remember, Michael Jackson started out with the Jacksons Five.

E.HANGA: Quite right. But something else surprised me. Our audience — since it’s live, you can call us — and, of course, a woman immediately called and said: “How nice, I’ll tell you this news now: do you know that you have a grandson here”? He is completely taken aback and says: “Like a grandson, where from?” She says, "Don't believe me. There was a very interesting program on TV, and they showed your grandson, he is the spitting image of you. He says how could it even theoretically be? She says: “How, your son came here. One night in a hotel, everything was there, everything was true. He says: "Can I see the grandson, the evidence?" She says: “What evidence? I have seen everything!" And he closed his eyes and did not understand whether this was a joke or not. And then another woman stood up in the studio and said: “Yes, by the way, I read everything in Arguments and Facts,” and the photo was allegedly published. He was so depressed. And he was still leaving the studio and saying: “Can I look at the photo somehow?” I say - stop paying attention! He says - well, a serious publication ...

E. ISHCHEEVA: In general, he admitted that he had 26 grandchildren, and therefore he was simply confused about them.

E.HANGA: Everyone said to him: “Why did you bring someone else's girl? You are better than your grandson..." He says, "Which grandson?" - "Own." He says I have 26.

K. LARINA: And how did your tandem form? Who came up with this?

E. ISHCHEEVA: I think it was the chief producer of NTV, Sergey Leonidovich Chumakov, who came up with this today, and the calls came completely unexpectedly for me. I was lying on the couch at home saying goodbye to my TV career

K. LARINA: Did you work for ORT?

E. ISHCHEEVA: Yes, I hosted the Good Day program for a year and a half.

K. LARINA: And why did you say goodbye? Did you leave yourself?

E. ISHCHEEVA: There was such a situation that I was forced to make a decision: either stay and do nothing, or just leave. I have a little son, I was preparing my husband that I would return to being a housewife.

K. LARINA: That is, roughly speaking, you were deprived of the air, as I understand it?

E. ISHCHEEVA: There is such a situation, if I ever find out the truth, I myself am interested. I don't know what happened. I just saw that the situation was very difficult, psychologically difficult, and I didn’t want to just sit at this age and wait for you to be remembered on your own channel, to which you gave 6 years. I made the decision to leave, and I officially said: I will go nowhere.

And I was already saying goodbye to the team, it was my birthday, I gathered all my editorial staff, told everyone everything, and suddenly, unexpectedly ... A fairy tale is not a fairy tale, believe it or not: when I had already hammered the last nail into the coffin of my career, one hears call. My former boss remembers me and says: “Lena, what are you doing?” I say: well, my son is running around here. He says - I'm not talking about that, what are you doing? - "Lying". He says: "Do you want to work?" And then I realized that everything now depends on my answer. I say: “I want, I want to work, I miss work.” And gradually they began to tell me about this project, where Lena was already, we didn’t know anything about each other, they hid from me that the other half was you, for a very long time.

E.HANGA: We were afraid that you would change your mind.

E. ISHCHEEVA: I don’t know... we were probably afraid that... You see, we just did a program with Sergei Leonidovich Shumakov, with a huge team, we good girls work - Olya Voronina, Mila Platonova. We made a program that is usually created on television from six months to a year, we did it in 2 weeks. Everyone told me you can fail so much that it doesn’t seem small. But, judging by the ratings, and they have now almost doubled after the first broadcast, we have raised the bar so high that now the question is how to keep it. And I work with Lena. I was afraid...

E.HANGA: Now carefully, control every word.

E. ISHCHEEVA: I was afraid, I did not know how she would receive me, I met her at Sheremetyevo, I really wanted to get to know her as soon as possible. And you know, I'm lucky, I'm really lucky. Lena is such a smart and wise partner...

E.HANGA: Lena, I don't pay extra for flattery.

E. ISHCHEEVA: No, I say this to my relatives as well. I really got lucky. I am very Difficult person, Lena suffers a lot.

K. LARINA: Lena, what about you?

E.HANGA: I'm doing great with Lena. I don't know why, just great, okay, enjoy. Everything is easy, the broadcast flies by unnoticed, and while it is such a pleasure that it is a holiday.

K. LARINA: And who is the main one among you?

E.HANGA: I don't think anyone is in charge. We are just a little different and we complement each other.

K. LARINA: Well, it doesn't happen like that. And no one pulls a blanket over themselves?

E. ISHCHEEVA: Ksenia, watch the broadcast and you will understand everything. There is no one pulling a blanket. And we are changing. One guest is talking to Lena, the other guest is talking to me.

R. VALIULIN: Everyone has their own blanket.

E. ISHCHEEVA: We have a schedule.

E.HANGA: You take on this guest, I take this one. And it was not conceived like Solovyov and Gordon, where one is good and the other is bad, one is progressive ...

K. LARINA: Opposite points vision.

E. HANGA: Yes. And we seem to...

E. ISHCHEEVA: We are ethereal friends. We do not sit up and do not tease, we work on the air for the viewer.

R. VALIULIN: But you are standing there, how can you sit up?

E. ISHCHEEVA: Some have already written about this, unfortunately, that we are sitting around, and that we are cramped. We are not crowded, we are very comfortable and good there now.

K. LARINA: This will pass. Judging by your temperament, you are very bright people who love to work.

R. VALIULIN: Yes, girls, it's time to calm down. You're kind of nervous to us came today.

E. ISHCHEEVA: Can I play my favorite group, if you have one?

R. VALIULIN: Well, now there will be news, we will look for her.

K. LARINA: It seems to me that they will calm down. Some period of time will pass ... Now there may be a feeling of tightness, because both of you are hard-working girls, energetic and really miss work. One has one, the other has another.

R. VALIULIN: I have a question in this regard for Lena Hange. You left leaving practically no guarantees here, as far as I remember. You were on the air with us before leaving. How did you manage to get back to work?

E.HANGA: When Lena received a call unexpectedly, she was lying on the couch - I was also lying when they called me, but only I was lying in the delivery room. I was already preparing to become a mother, foolishly took mobile phone with myself. The phone rang, I took ... And I was in New York, I forgot to say, I gave birth in New York. And the phone rang and they told me: “It is you who are being disturbed from the office general producer. Where are you, why don't you come to work? - "What's happening?" "We're starting a new show here." I say: I can't talk now, I'm giving birth. They say to me: "What is it?" - "I give birth!" - Call us back. I say: “I’m giving birth right now and I’ll call you back in literally 15 minutes.”

I called back and they told me that this is new project starts literally in 2 weeks, so come urgently, we are launching, and that's all ... I say - how, but is it possible ...? “Nothing is possible anymore. It has already been announced in the newspaper, and everything has been hung up, the photos have already been brought together, you will have such a presenter, your girlfriend, and stop doing stupid things, get ready, fly out.

R. VALIULIN: Didn't they find a new husband for you there?

E.HANGA: Be careful, I'm afraid that my husband is listening, and he won't let me in with such jokes again.

K.LARINA: Like it, in short?

E.HANGA: Of course. It's such a pleasure, and I missed the broadcast so much, to be honest.

K. LARINA: And as I understand it, you did not take part in the development of the idea? That is, this fact, you were offered just such a show, and no ideas were expressed?

E.HANGA: I found it very interesting. No, they told me what it would be about, but in a very in general terms, but it seemed interesting to me, especially since the daytime show is a completely different audience for me, I'm used, in principle, to a different one, as you might guess. I used to shock, shock. And it's calm, it's nice, it's wonderful.

K. LARINA: No white wig?

E.HANGA: No. I sometimes take a wig - look at it, remember.

R. VALIULIN: Did you see it while you were wearing it?

E.HANGA: No, but everyone tells me that I felt much better in a wig.

E. ISHCHEEVA: I like it. Lena looks very elegant in the frame. She has a strict hairstyle.

R. VALIULIN: Again flattery.

E.HANGA: Probably, you still have to pay extra.

E. ISHCHEEVA: Well, why the flattery? If I really like? Now I will start pulling out all sorts of nasty things, then they will start deducting me for these nasty things.

E.HANGA: On the air, they made me pull my hair back, a strict conservative suit.

K. LARINA: When we learned about this program, about what exactly you, Lena and Lena are leading, we thought with Rinat that this is such a hello to Oprah? This type of show?

E.HANGA: "Oprah" - it is evening. She leads alone, she leads for 4 hours. But I completely agree with you. She also has such topics that are mainly of interest to women, the townsfolk, I'm not afraid of this word.

R. VALIULIN: The breadwinners, why be afraid, the main TV breadwinners.

E.HANGA: And I will probably even peep a lot of topics from her. Because I watched it with pleasure when I was pregnant.

R. VALIULIN: Isn't it boring to do the same thing? Don't want something new?

E.HANGA: Do you mean the same as Oprah?

R. VALIULIN: Repeat. At some point you repeat.

E.HANGA: I'll tell you that Oprah didn't come up with this, this format is all over the world, you see, the topics all intersect, it all depends on how to do it. I'm going to give you 5 or 6 shows that are running around the same time in America, and it amazes me how much there, although the topics overlap, different views. Someone a little more yellow. Oprah has a message, she talks more about spirituality, she is more concerned about the same topic, but from a spiritual point of view. And Ricki Lake has the same theme, but from a scandalous point of view. So it all depends on performance. Something else amazes me: where do they get so many heroes from. We have the impression that the characters wander from one program to another, on the same day they manage to visit. This is bad.

K. LARINA: “Lena, tell us what you did before the Good Morning, Good Afternoon, Domino Principle programs?” Andrey asks.

E. ISHCHEEVA: I worked on the radio. I came as a courier, I will not hide it, I was an ordinary courier when I entered the Faculty of Journalism, at the State Television and Radio Broadcasting Department of the USSR in the literary and dramatic editorial office on Kachalova Street.

R. VALIULIN: We have been there, we know.

E. ISHCHEEVA: She wore daddies there, so she knew Ostankino, knew Pyatnitskaya. And then they noticed me, invited me to the children's editorial office, first as an editor, then as a correspondent, then as a special correspondent, then at the age of 18 I went to represent our radio in Switzerland, then to London ...

R. VALIULIN: What does it mean to represent the radio?

E. ISHCHEEVA: I participated in international conferences from radio, Russian radio, Soviet, post-Soviet. That is, someone believed, someone sent. I myself am surprised.

K. LARINA: Probably, beautiful girl then it was very.

E. ISHCHEEVA: But I knew English well then. And she graduated from the Faculty of Journalism - can you brag? With a red diploma, it sounds like a sentence. And at the same moment, Pavel Vladimirovich Kasparov took me to ORT in the Telemorning program, and immediately he sent me as a wedding gift to Japan, and from there I brought the 15-episode reportage series Letters at Dawn, from which the entire editorial board was tired . And they said - this girl should not be sent anywhere else, she is all Japanese ... They still call and say - God, who did you send? This is a robot, not a human.

K. LARINA: And then Good Morning started right away.

E. ISHCHEEVA: “Good morning,” and there was a correspondent, a special correspondent, conducting, gradually, and then the lid slammed shut.

K. LARINA: You won't say why? What's there? Intrigue?

E. ISHCHEEVA: I don't know. I have a lot of friends who work there now. I know that psychologically something is happening, something is in the air, I really want everything to be fine with ORT, but I'm worried about the guys.

K. LARINA: “Greetings to Lena Ishcheeva from Yuri Gridnev.”

E. ISHCHEEVA: My classmate. Wow!

K. LARINA: Yura, leave the phone, Lena will call you.

E. ISCHEEVA: I had Gridnev alone in the class, and the other was Gridnev just at Radio-1. Maybe it's from there.

K. LARINA: Now a question for Lena Hange. “Can you use the example of your family to illustrate the situation of life in the shadow of the stars? Or are you wrong?" asks Boris.

E.HANGA: First of all, I don't consider myself a star. Absolutely seriously. And secondly, in the shadow I don't even quite understand the question of who is in whose shadow.

R. VALIULIN: Lena spent most of her life in the sun, in my opinion, and not in the shade...

E.HANGA: You need to go to KVN. The captains competition is yours. I have friends there, I can put in a good word.

K. LARINA: Now Irina asks about the indecent program. This is an interesting point, by the way. Kolya Fomenko was our guest last week, he was approximately asked the same question. He was accused of showing his "Empire of Passion", and it was the opening of this road to nowhere called "full glazing." This is where it all began, they say. Irina accuses you of the fact that your program “About it” prepared the arrival of an even more shameless program “Behind the Glass”.

E. HANGA: I do not agree. No one peeped at us, I don’t think that we had an indecent transfer, it didn’t excite anyone at all, in any case, it was not conceived as such a transfer. We shared impressions, sensations, and people were all dressed, no one expressed himself, and if they expressed themselves, it was only literary. We had experts, we had doctors.

I think we rather had educational transmission and a bit entertaining. But the topic is sex. But this does not mean ... In general, sex and “glass” are completely different things, I don’t even quite understand the connection between the fact that in one program people spy on how others are sitting and just swell from nothing to do, but in our program we just had something to do...

R. VALIULIN: And to what extent did the very topic that you raised led to the fact that people were frank? To what extent did the topic lead them to this?

K. LARINA: Now a question about ethics in television. There are several listeners who turn to you with this question - both to Lena and Lena. Do you know the prehistory of the appearance of your program, that this place was the show of Marina Yudenich, which was closed due to the fact that the rating was low? As far as we know, there was some kind of tragedy related to her health.

E.HANGA: She had a stroke.

K. LARINA: How much this is connected with her departure or non-departure - I don’t know, but, nevertheless, how important it is for you, and did you communicate with Marina Yudenich?

E. ISHCHEEVA: When I arrived, the first thing I asked was what was wrong with Marina. Because at that moment I was working for ORT, I hosted Good Day, and I didn’t see Marina’s program, sometimes, a little bit, I didn’t even know what it was. I also didn’t know anything about low ratings, there’s no time to monitor competitors when you are constantly on the air. I say - what about Marina? I was told that the program was officially closed not because of low ratings. She feels very bad. A tragedy happened to a man. And the whole team, I saw, they look at me and do not know how to approach me first. I say guys, you understand, I just want to work and I want everything to work out.

K. LARINA: And the same group works with you?

E. ISHCHEEVA: The same team. Andrei Komarov, he met me, and he talked to me for a long time, trying to understand what kind of person I am. And I realized that they did not know whether it would work or not. And this burden that happened to Marina - now I ... Suppose Lena often reassures me. I take everything so close to my heart. She says: Lena, you will finish at Kashchenko. Because we play real TV, we work live. This is the only live talk show of its kind. We are all unpredictable. I then stumbled in the middle of the studio, and the whole country saw it.

K.LARINA: Why the only one? Is there Freedom of Speech by Savik Shuster, Voice of the People?

E. ISHCHEEVA: I mean a talk show of such a level, when different characters come out, action, daytime, I won't name our competitors, but live entertainment.

K. LARINA: Let’s name it, because there is, after all, the “Big Wash”, recorded, there is all sorts of commissar’s stuff like this…

E. ISHCHEEVA: There is “What a woman wants”, again, recorded.

K. LARINA: And then Yulia Menshova - the program is also on record.

E. ISHCHEEVA: And you yourself said: we have a live broadcast, this is an advantageous difference. Lena and I get tired, like everyone else Russian women. On Monday we go out so fresh, rested, then by Thursday I look at the record and think: my God, how tired I am ... That is, our children also do not sleep at night, we get tired and work together with women, they are all see, there is another difference.

R. VALIULIN: That is, you are ordinary Russian citizens.

E. ISHCHEEVA: What is so difficult about us? We also have hungry children and unfed husbands who are tired of everything.

E.HANGA: No, my child is not hungry. Because I express milk several times a day and send it to my mother-in-law.

R. VALIULIN: I would like to remember Pugacheva’s song “I’m just getting tired” ...

K. LARINA: ... "Just like everyone else, like everyone else." Now they are asking, apparently, about your program, about the auction. Do you have an auction? "Real or a joke?" listeners ask.

E. ISHCHEEVA: We had an auction of bachelors. What, did anyone like it?

K.LARINA: They ask if this is a real auction or was it a joke?

E. ISHCHEEVA: Why? Real.

K. LARINA: Did you sell men?

E.HANGA: They did.

E. ISHCHEEVA: They offered our TV bachelors, who said what they want to get from a woman, who to meet. Letters, I hope, will go, only three days have passed. But there were a lot of calls indeed.

K. LARINA: And, of course, they ask who is ahead, how do you select the heroes, is there any concept of the program, our listeners ask, what is the topic.

E. ISHCHEEVA: There is a topic for the next week, we will not disclose it. Watch broadcast. We will also fight to the last, so that in our studio there are real heroes, not decoy ducks. We are here now, and the editors are calling, the phones at the editorial office are relentlessly busy, I could not get through until one in the morning. Now I have come, I was looking for real guests - tragic stories, people who could and knew how to stand up for themselves. We are in search mode, so we will not disclose everything.

K. LARINA: How often do unpredictable situations happen on the program? By the way, to the issue of live broadcasting.

E.HANGA: We only had a few broadcasts, and the only unpredictable situation for me was when they said that they would bring Michael Jackson's dad, and I had to quickly change in my mind. Because we had everything in mind, of course, it was planned, we had to quickly figure out how to deal with the translation, for example. It is very interesting there: for some reason, his translator refused to translate, saying that she does not look good today. And, in theory, she had to translate into the ear. She says no, today it will not work with the translation, translate yourself. These are the things.

E. ISHCHEEVA: But we worked very well. That is, Lena in English, I immediately began to translate it English questions into Russian, and it really turned out to be a talk show, word for word - it was a lot of fun, take our word for it.

R. VALIULIN: By the way, what are the host's methods to raise the rating? Maybe you can reveal some of your secrets? How can the presenter himself contribute to raising the rating of the program?

E.HANGA: I don't think the host can, I think it all depends on the characters. One hero can make a pass, and it is not at all necessary that it be a star, the main thing is that interesting story or for him to tell about an uninteresting story, it is interesting that there be a gleam in his eyes.

R. VALIULIN: Lena, in my opinion, does not agree with you.

E.HANGA: I agree, I would like to add that the rating is made by the sincerity of both the presenters and the characters. When you don't lie, when your eyes burn, the people pay in kind.

K. LARINA: I do not agree with you. Or all these calendars are lying... They say that Komissarov has a crazy rating. I cannot convict him of sincerity, his program.

E. ISHCHEEVA: I don't know, I didn't hold a candle over his rating.

E.HANGA: Topics.

K. LARINA: It seems to me that this is not an indicator.

R. VALIULIN: But at the same time, the presenter keeps the dynamics of the program.

E. ISHCHEEVA: It's not the host who is holding. Holds the director, who sits in our ear and says: why are you interrupting, well, quickly shut up!

K.LARINA: You don't make yourself dumber than you really are. You need to clearly imagine the audience that is watching you now, and still somehow combine yourself with it. How sincere it is is the question.

E. ISHCHEEVA: I am asking a question that is of interest to me not as a journalist with 15 years of experience, but as an ordinary woman. I imagine that I am now frying eggs in the kitchen - that's what I would ask her about. My task is to guess what the viewer wants to get from this character, what information. And when you guess right, they watch with you and are just as interested as you are. You must anticipate and feel the viewer with your spine.

R. VALIULIN: Does this woman have a higher education, or does it not matter?

E. ISHCHEEVA: It doesn't matter at all. Although I have a higher, I sometimes ask terribly funny questions, and, it seems to me, stupid, but I understand that they are interesting to me, as well. I'm a woman and I'm interested.

R. VALIULIN: I'm talking about the portrait of the audience. What person do you see?

E.HANGA: It seems to me that there are topics that are of interest to absolutely everyone, and they speak the same language. If you are talking about children, the topic of divorce, the topic of bachelors - do you need a higher education to discuss the topic of bachelors? No. And by the way, I think that people without a higher education in everyday life are much wiser than a person with a higher education, who is dominated by this higher education.

K. LARINA: We are so accustomed to talking about the topics “Bachelors”, “My husband left me”, “Me and my rival” - the titles with which the screens are dotted. It's all so abstract things, it's impossible to find a recipe for everyone here.

E.HANGA: Of course. Therefore, Lena and I are discussing the fact that we do not have the right to generalize, firstly, and secondly, to express our point of view. I am always very against the fact that the leader expressed a point of view at the end and said you are right and you are wrong. It seems to me that people are just interested in seeing what kind of stories there are. Like a doctor you came to see, and he looks at you and says: “Oh, how good, and this is good, and this is good ...” - “What, am I all right?” - “You feel bad, I say, it’s good that I don’t have all this!” It’s the same here: a person looks and thinks, it’s necessary, my life has nevertheless developed, if it’s not so with me ...

R. VALIULIN: Again, I want to return to this issue. Television producers still somewhat belittle the audience to which they broadcast. I got in touch a little in my time with television, and there is a collective portrait of the audience, often enough this name is called, this is Baba Manya from some distant town. Do you agree with this position?

E. ISHCHEEVA: No. We are just now getting to know our audience. Let's suppose we thought that Jackson's dad would have a crazy rating, it would seem that the schoolchildren came from schools, around 3 o'clock. And yesterday the ratings of our last broadcast came, where stars and non-stars told how they gave birth to children at the age of 14, at 42, surrogate motherhood, that's all! Jackson's dad is resting. The rating was almost one and a half times higher. And here we understand who our audience is, we begin to gradually feel it. That is, we follow the numbers, and our producer Sergei Shumakov says: I understand who is watching us. Now it remains for us to fully understand.

K. LARINA: Well, who is watching?

E. ISHCHEEVA: If this topic is interesting - how to get pregnant, how to give birth, whom to implant, how much does it cost, who watches us? Young girls, women who are either expecting a child, or carrying a child, or nannies who feed a child, housewives, this is our audience. That is, the female theme defeated the pop idol in part.

E.HANGA: I tried to understand how the ratings reflect reality. After all, it may be that someone looked at Jackson's dad and decided: "Oh, how interesting, we should look tomorrow." Also not the fact that this program was more interesting than the previous one. Or maybe it's just cold outside, people are sitting at home. I don’t know, by the way, you need to read the literature and find out if there are some statistics there, how the ratings reflect objective reality.

E. ISHCHEEVA: A bohemian is still watching us, who at this moment is having breakfast or lunch, who is going to the theater for a rehearsal. I just know that people come about, we know you, you don’t need to introduce yourself, we saw you all the time in Good Day on ORT. And I already feel who watched me. Mama Baskova knew us all very well, she says - I know your program, I don’t need to explain anything.

K. LARINA: Did you visit the Basques too?

E. ISHCHEEVA: Baskov's mother.

R. VALIULIN: You hit your parents more.

E. ISHCHEEVA: So it was "The Surroundings of the Stars".

K. LARINA: Well, how does Baskov's mother feel in the shadow of a star?

E. ISHCHEEVA: I liked it very much. Good aunt.

E.HANGA: Temperamental, emotional.

E. ISHCHEEVA: He speaks very well and answers any questions. She also shaved off the journalist who tried to put her in a puddle. Well done. Although it is clear that life has passed through the garrisons, it can stand up for itself.

K. LARINA: Did the Basques sing?

E. ISHCHEEVA: He was not there.

E.HANGA: Sabina sang with us.

E. ISHCHEEVA: We arranged such a small competition. Jackson's dad introduced the rising star Crystal, and Lena, well done, she says: well, maybe you will sing? And the girl refused categorically to sing without a phonogram. And that's it, live broadcast, you can't get anywhere. She sang. I stand and think something is missing in the program. Questions, questions ... And here Sabina is sitting, a child prodigy, who is now Lysenkov's wife, also with a small baby, and disappeared somewhere.

K. LARINA: Is she a child prodigy?

E. ISHCHEEVA: There was. Our program was "Gifted Children".

K. LARINA: In what ways was she a child prodigy?

E. ISHCHEEVA: So they wrote in the newspapers. When she won at the age of 10 or 12 " morning star", she wrote music ...

K. LARINA: Lena, stop it! You are a grown woman!

E. ISHCHEEVA: No, I'm still a child.

K. LARINA: Naive! Here is a sincere person. Here Hanga is sitting, he understands everything.

E. ISHCHEEVA: In short, Sabina sang, and then she tells me - such a cool competition. And everyone was wondering who would sing better, an American or ours. And everyone, of course, was rooting for ours. And so it turned out to be a small show, here is a live broadcast.

K. LARINA: But are you bored yet?

E.HANGA: No. You always have to change. You've been doing so many years... But you're doing more than one thing, you have television, you switch. You have to be nervous all the time, you can't get used to it. Because when it is already done on the machine, then it is dreary. And when you still don’t know how it will turn out, you think about it after the broadcast, you talk, you get friends, you look into your eyes, you fuss, then, probably, an interesting program turns out. And when you get used to it, then everyone already feels it.

R. VALIULIN: And your relatives? What is the reaction from your family and friends?

E.HANGA: My relatives don't watch, except for my mother-in-law, who is the most reliable person, who watches all programs carefully and then advises something, very tactfully. She likes something, she doesn't like something, and in order not to offend me, she says - well, yes, that's good. And I understand that, of course, not as good as we would like. And when it's very good, she says yes, I was proud of you! Since she is a stingy person for praise, her opinion is very important to me. Differently.

K. LARINA: And if you dream? The ideal model of your program, Elena Hanga's program?What would you like, no matter what?

E.HANGA: I don't want to tell you.

K.LARINA: But there is? Why can't it be done now?

E.HANGA: Probably, we need to come to this. When the time comes, I will do something else. When I did “About it”, they told me: “Well, you signed your own sentence. No one else will invite you to anything else." Yes, of course, on Goodnight, kids ”, it is unlikely that I will be invited to the daytime show either, but maybe there will be something else in the evening. And this is how fate turned - they called me to the daytime show. So I believe that you can change your karma, change what is attached to you for a while.

R. VALIULIN: What should be done to prevent labels from sticking?

E.HANGA: Don't be afraid to try something else.

K. LARINA: But it seems to me that you still shouldn’t deceive yourself. To put it bluntly, be yourself. Because I remember this indecent program “About It”, after all, then it was even clear that Lena was a different person, because she was embarrassed, uncomfortable, she herself overcame it in the frame, it was visible. Therefore, it was impossible to stick a label there.

E.HANGA: Thank you.

K. LARINA: Lena, do you have a dream, is such a program ideal for you?

E. ISHCHEEVA: Do not fail on the next broadcast.

K. LARINA: No, seriously. What kind of program do you see that you can do in its entirety as an author, presenter?

E. ISHCHEEVA: I am not dreaming about anything now. I got very burned. When you dream and people see that you have wings behind your back, I don’t want to talk about this topic, they cut very quickly and with one blow. And you understand that your fate does not depend on you. My dad Lena told me all the time, first you work for authority, and then authority works for you. I always did everything gradually myself, and I realized that, unfortunately, this recipe for survival on our television does not work today. There will always be people who will say and stab in the back. I don't dream of anything right now. I dream of growing up normal child so that everything is fine in my house. And television came today, gone tomorrow. I understand too soberly that I'm unlikely to decide my fate there. The notorious rating, management and people who either believe in me or not will decide. I have become too sober, albeit naive.

R. VALIULIN: And at the same time, do not take all sorts of television intrigues and twists and turns so close to your heart.

E. ISHCHEEVA: And this is what makes me different, which is too close.

R.VALIULIN: I don't think it's worth it.

K. LARINA: We have an introduction to the song that Lena asked us to put on.

E. ISHCHEEVA: I love A-ha very much since childhood, I am its avid fan, I asked to put “Sun always shines on TV” in the theme of our program so that the sun always shines in our program “The Domino Principle” on NTV.

Elena Khanga is a Russian journalist, TV and radio host, who is familiar to viewers from the popular programs “About This” and “The Domino Principle”. In addition, Elena Khanga is famous as the first Soviet journalist who was invited to Boston on exchange, where the presenter got a job in the reputable American newspaper Christian Science Monitor.

Elena Abdulaevna Khanga was born on May 1, 1962 in Moscow. The TV presenter cannot answer the question of what her nationality is. The roots of the family tree of parents diverge in different and completely unexpected directions.

Elena's father Abdul Kassim Hanga was from Zanzibar, her grandfather was an imam. In 1964, Abdul Khanga was appointed Prime Minister of Zanzibar, but after 4 months of government he was repressed, died in prison when Elena was two years old.

Elena's adoptive father was Lee Young, an African American who now lives in Los Angeles.

The mother of the famous TV presenter Leah Oliverovna Golden was born in the city of Tashkent. Her father, Oliver Golden, was an African-American cotton grower, and her mother, Berta Bialik, was a Polish Jew. The Golden family emigrated from the US to the USSR in 1931. Leah Golden played tennis in her youth, even played for the national team of Uzbekistan, she is a graduate of the Faculty of History of Moscow State University, a historian, and also a professor at the University of Chicago.

Leah Golden had extensive acquaintances. Elena Hangi's mother was friends with her daughter, and lived with her in the hostel of Moscow State University. Subsequently, Leah Oliverovna became the only black employee at the Institute named after Paul Robeson and Dr. William Dubois.

Elena Hanga was raised by her mother and grandmother. Like Leah Golden, she played tennis and even played for the CSKA team. Grandmother spoke to the girl in English, so that she mastered the language as quickly as possible. Elena went to a special school with in-depth English, and after graduating from school she entered the Moscow State University at the Faculty of Journalism.

After graduating from Moscow State University, the journalist completed an internship at New York and Harvard universities. Soon, the girl decided that she wanted to get another higher education, and entered the psychotherapist at the University of New York.

After graduating from high school, the newspaper Moscow News became the first place of work for Hangi. Elena Hanga is one of the lucky few who was invited on an exchange to Boston in 1987, where she completed a three-month internship at the Christian Science Monitor newspaper. In 1989, the Foundation invited Elena Hanga to the United States, and the journalist, of course, agreed. There the girl went different countries and studied philanthropy. During these travels, Lena told the inhabitants of various continents about life in the USSR, about her family, about her roots.

It was then that she had the idea to write a book about her own family tree. To do this, she carefully studied her history, which began with Africa, America and England. In 1992, Hanga published a book she called The History of a Black Russian-American Family. 1865-1992". The book became a bestseller in many countries and was even translated into several languages.

In 2001, Elena Khanga published her second book, which she called "About everything and about it." The TV presenter dedicated it to her mother and Gennady Gerasimov, whom she calls her mentor since her work at Moscow News. In this book, Hanga talks about topics that affect the program "About it", she also wrote about herself and her family.

Elena Khanga is a member of the Public Council of the Russian Jewish Congress.

Journalism

The creative biography of Elena Hanga is no less interesting and amazing than her own family and pedigree. In the 1980s, Elena played for the World Team in KVN. And in 1989, after an internship in America, he invited Elena Hanga to an episodic role in the TV show "Vzglyad". Since the program was popular at the time, the girl did not go unnoticed. Soon she began to work with D. Zakharov, V. Listyev and, or, as she called them, with the "trinity of musketeers." Hanga called these years of work the most fun.

In 1993, she was invited to the NTV channel to work as a sports correspondent and report on the Olympics in Atlanta. The next proposal was in 1997 in new program"About this", which has become one of the highest rated on Russian television. At first, Elena Hanga refused, as it was a program on very frank and risky topics, but Parfenov convinced her that the program was doomed to success.

With the program “About this”, Lena’s television career began to take off: she entered the book of records, and The New York Times wrote about her. But three years later, the program "About it" was closed, as it had completely exhausted itself.

In 1998, Elena Khanga tried her hand at a new project. The girl became a co-host of Leonid Parfyonov in a trial pilot of the TV game "Russians in Fort Bayard", an adaptation of the popular French TV game Fort Boyard, filmed with Russian participants. The pilot release consisted of three games that received warm reviews from viewers and critics, so the project was launched and ran until 2006 and experienced a revival attempt in 2013. But Elena Hanga hosted the show only until 2002, after Parfenov and Hanga were replaced and.

Soon Elena Hangu was expecting a new proposal. In 2001, she was invited to become the host of the Domino Principle program, which she hosted first with, and after with. The program, which talked about what surrounds us in this life, was quite successful.

From 2009 to this day, Elena Khanga has been hosting the Cross Talk talk show on the English-language channel Russia Today. She also collaborates with Komsomolskaya Pravda radio, and since 2011, on the KP-TV channel, she has been broadcasting the TV show “With a remote control for life” and the program “In Search of Truth” on Komsomolskaya Pravda radio.

Movies

Elena Khanga also tried herself as an actress. Elena took her first steps in cinema as a child - the first role of Elena Hanga happened in 1970 in the film Black Sun.

In 1981, Lena was waiting for a role in the extras of the film The Invisible Man. A few years later, Elena appeared in the films "New Tales of Scheherazade" and "The Last Night of Scheherazade." Hanga also starred in the films "Park Soviet period"And" Evlampia Romanova 3: Forecast of nasty things for tomorrow, "where she played the role of virologist Ngvanya Mbow.

Personal life

Elena Hanga's husband's name is Igor Mintusov. The chosen one of the TV presenter is a political consultant and political scientist, chairman of the board of directors of the Center for Political Consulting. The future spouses met in student years at MSU. In 1988, Igor made an offer to Lena, but the girl refused, as she had plans to travel around the world and make a career. The lovers parted for a while, but soon met again, and Igor proposed a second time. Elena Khanga agreed.

In January 2001, the wedding of a TV presenter and a political scientist took place. The event took place in America, in Los Angeles, where most of Hanga's relatives live. The lovers prepared for the wedding for a very long time and reverently, only Wedding Dress sewed for a year.

On October 25, 2001, a daughter was born in the family, who was named Elizabeth-Anna, in honor of Elena's tennis coach, Anna Vladimirovna Dmitrieva. The daughter is the only heiress of Elena, the TV presenter has no other children.

Elizabeth-Anna justified her own name and also became interested in playing tennis and even achieved considerable success in this sport. Today, the TV presenter's daughter is a participant in the world junior tour under the auspices of the International Tennis Federation ITF 2017 Autumn Cup 2 in the under-19 age category. Behind her shoulders, the girl already has experience in other performances in the ITF World Junior Series.

Hanga says that her husband loves to travel, but wants to live in Russia. Hanga is proud of Igor and considers her husband a very smart person.

As far as the press knows, Elena Khanga does not maintain a personal account on Instagram, but other star users of this network post photos from the popular TV presenter using a personalized hashtag.

Elena Hanga now

In 2017, Elena Khanga performed at World Festival youth and students. The TV presenter became the moderator of the panel discussion on the topic "Intercultural Dialogue for the Benefit of Peace".

The discussion was attended by famous foreign guests: the head of the screenwriting department of the University of California at Los Angeles and director Neil Landau, Italian doctor Giuseppe Scotti and others. The speakers noted the importance of obtaining a multicultural education, which consists both in studying foreign languages, and in teaching the basics of other cultures, stories about the chronicles and main historical events other countries. The speakers also emphasized the importance of international scientific and educational festivals and conferences, which allow the exchange of experience between countries.

In addition, Elena Khanga is a welcome guest of fashion events. For example, in September 2017, the TV presenter appeared at a cocktail at the Crocus City Mall on the occasion of the opening of the Garage Nouveau Italian clothing corner by Italian designers Massimo and Eliza in the Kharizma Lab fashion boutique.

Projects

• 1997-2000 - "About it"
• 2001-2006 - "The Domino Principle"
• 2009 - "Cross Talk"
• 2011-2014 - "With remote control for life"
• 2011 - "In search of truth"

Filmography

• 1970 - "Black Sun"
• 1974 - "That sweet word is freedom!"
• 1981 - "The Eighth Wonder of the World"
• 1984 - The Invisible Man
• 1986 - "New Tales of Scheherazade"
• 1987 - "The Last Night of Scheherazade"
• 2005 - “Balzac age, or All men are their own ...”
• 2006 - “Evlampia Romanova. The investigation is conducted by an amateur "
• 2006 - "Park of the Soviet period"

The struggle of TV channels for daytime viewers, which began last year, continues. In defiance of the "Big Wash" on ORT and "What a Woman Wants" on RTR NTV, the "Domino Principle" was born. The stakes were high, because its predecessor - the talk show "Prosto Marina" - turned out to be a failure. The host of the program, Marina Yudenich, became seriously ill, and her husband said: “That's enough, sit at home and write books.” For a new daytime show from America, a young mother, Elena Hanga, was called, and Elena Ishcheeva, who was not well promoted, was chosen as a couple.

Elena Khanga: "I was offered a job during childbirth"

Elena, why did they close the program "About it"?

In my opinion, now everyone is talking about love and sex, including programs that have absolutely nothing to do with these topics. We were pioneers, but now the niche is filled.

What did you do after you disappeared from the air?

I filmed the program "New Babylon" for "NTV-International", which was watched only in America. And after that she was pregnant and was exclusively engaged in raising her daughter. I lived in Moscow, but regularly flew to America to see my doctor. She also traveled a lot with her husband. Pregnancy passed somehow quickly and imperceptibly.

How was the birth?

I am ready to give birth again, again and again. It didn't hurt at all, I even felt physical satisfaction. The doctor asked me to give birth in 30 minutes, because she had to go somewhere, and I told her: "No, it won't work, the first birth lasts 2-3 hours." We bet on champagne and I lost. By the way, it was during childbirth that I was offered to participate in a new talk show. Quite by accident, I left my mobile phone in the delivery room, and I got a call from NTV. I agreed, not really understanding what I was getting into. I had never worked daily live and did not know that it was so difficult. I want to sleep all the time (I usually communicate with my daughter at night), but the work is reckless, interesting, and I don’t regret at all that I didn’t stay at home.

Elena, what is the domino principle?

If you set up a domino with a house and push the bottom part, everything will collapse. So in life everything is interconnected: here they pushed, there they fell. But other Lena will tell you about the program, I have to run to feed my daughter.

Elena Ishcheeva: "We will not have "setups""

Co-host of Hangi Elena Ischeeva came to NTV from ORT. She graduated from the faculty of journalism and, having no patronage, called the television and asked: "Do you need a journalist?" It turned out to be needed. She made several stories in "Good Morning", shot a 15-episode report about Japan "Letters at Dawn", and then became the host of "Good Day".

After " Good morning“I didn’t receive any offers, I was lying on the couch in woolen socks, watching TV and saying goodbye to my career. I already talked with my husband that I might become a housewife. It was at that moment that Sergey Shumakov, who headed our editorial on ORT, and then left for NTV. The program, which is being prepared on television for at least six months, we made in two weeks. Our competitors openly told me: “You will fail.” I had nothing to lose.

Can you do without the fake heroes that Malakhov successfully uses in the "Big Wash"?

Of course, it is very difficult to find a hitherto unknown hero with a unique fate. We cannot avoid repetitions, but I think there will be no "setting up". This is not even discussed in the team. Today I am not very satisfied with the program - we did not involve the audience very much. Sometimes they give out such pearls that you lie down and cannot get up. No matter how the director builds the show, a person is interesting for his unpredictability...